PJ’s now posted, further:
Someone has sent me the page you link to, one you put up just to criticize Groklaw and to insult me personally.
No, PJ, it’s not all about you. This blog exists to defend Hercules against the patent attacks from IBM. It just so happens that most of what I’ve been moved to comment about so far has been your one-sided, IBM-can-do-no-wrong statements attacking TurboHercules SAS and me for daring to disagree.
Now I am VERY glad I returned your money.
As you wish; however, I still believe that you provide a valuable service, and would genuinely like to further that service.
I see know you didn’t come here to help us, Jay. You came to do what you are doing now, I believe, and in fact others have been warning me that this was your plan, to set me up, to try to create a phony “division” in the FOSS community.
Horse exhaust and hogwash. I genuinely came to Groklaw to try to help, by sharing what I knew firsthand. Unfortunately, you appear to think that, despite IBM’s own statements and actions, that they’re a total, unconditional friend of the open source community, and therefore nothing they do can in any way be construed as an attack on that community. The facts in this case are different, no matter whether you agree or not. As has been said in other contexts, “You’re entitled to your own opinions. You’re not entitled to your own facts.”
And now, what a coincidence, you sound like prior SCOfolk and Microsoft helpers on the subject of Groklaw. It’s not good to sound like Darl, you know. But it’s your choice.
I refuse to accept your attempt to smear me by association. Then again, you’ve been doing it since the very first words you spoke in reply to anything I said, so why should this be any different?
I am my own person, PJ. I speak only in my own interest and, I feel, in that of the open source community. If I sound like those on the side of SCO, it’s because I’ve been attacked as though I were – even though I most assuredly am not. As far as I’m concerned, SCO should sink beneath the waves and Darl should have to personally reimburse those he’s wronged.
All that happened is we don’t agree with you. We certainly listened to you ad nauseum, as the many, many comments addressing your comments in detail attest. So your accusation is false. We don’t think you’ve told it like it is, and that is our opinion after listening to what you had to say.
If “listened to you” means “cherry picked the facts and used them to slam you for being a Microsoft shill”, sure. The unbiased observer will see it rather differently.
It is you who have ignored the community, which did actually try to help you, and which doesn’t see IBM as being the problem in this fact pattern.
No, it’s that part of the community that believes IBM can do no wrong, not the community as a whole, that has twisted my words and ignored inconvenient facts to try to paint me as a Microsoft shill and SCO supporter, when in fact I am neither.
You’ll probably say this is a personal attack. That’s also nonsense. I’m attacking your actions, which show a determined, repeated, clear-cut bias toward IBM and away from the open source community when you must choose between the two.
You’ve decided that I’m the bad guy, and in the process, attacked an open source project. Are you proud of what you’ve done? I’m sure you are. Should you be? In my opinion, no. You’re standing up for software patents just because your favorite company has used them in an attack on an open source project.
In the process, you’ve shown to any truly impartial observer that you do not deserve the geek cred you earned from following the SCO case any more.
Update: As just one example of PJ cherry picking facts, consider this. An anonymous commenter posted:
Here’s where you’re wrong:
From what I’ve read, TurboHercules doesn’t develop the software. The Hercules project does. TH sells support for the Hercules software.
Assuming this is true (there is nothing I’ve seen anywhere to show it isn’t), the patent attack CANNOT be targeted at TH, but only at the open source project.
Saying this is not saying that one agrees with TH’s decision to file an anti-trust complaint. That is a different issue entirely. The only thing that is relevant is that asserting the patents against the open source project will almost certainly encourage Microsoft to do the same against FOSS projects.
I wish that IBM and TH would sit down with SFLC and figure out a way to have their dispute without bringing patents into it.
Realize that:
* Intel and AMD also have patents.
* VMWare, VirtualBox, VirtualPC, Qemu, and Bochs probably tread on some of those patents. Maybe sponsoring companies have licenses to permit it and maybe they
don’t.
* Figure out where this is going. There is no possible way to spin this as anything other than bad news.
PJ’s reply, in full:
There is no way if you posit the “facts” as you have, but the actual facts are different.
Just what facts are different? The only one she could possibly be disputing is that TurboHercules SAS doesn’t develop the software. (The ones in the original poster’s last paragraph are beyond serious dispute.) How, exactly, does she know what TurboHercules SAS develops? How, especially, does she know better than I do? I’ve asked Roger Bowler what, if anything, TurboHercules SAS does to the Hercules source as published to produce the binaries they ship, and thee answer was that they use compiler options to take the unmodified source and produce their binary modules. That’s all. No changes to the source code are made.
I’ve said that to PJ several times, and yet she continues to say that TurboHercules SAS’s code is not the same as the open source product. If PJ had any integrity at all, she’d either retract those statements or else say just how she knows something that neither Roger Bowler nor I do about TurboHercules SAS’s product.